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  • Myra Lee Confronts the Past on New Album Capture The Flag 

    July 17th, 2026

    Written by Natalie Ingalls | Photo by Laila Holmes

    How do you cope when you’ve watched your family deal with multiple near-death experiences, alcoholism and estrangement? For songwriter Tahlia Amanson of Myra Lee, it’s through assuming a persona “similar to Hannah Montana” and laying bare those life-defining moments in song. Capture The Flag, the debut record of the Brooklyn trio, buries the personal in shoegazey guitar and imagery-laden lyrics, resulting in six intimate but expansive tracks. 

    Amanson grew up in the artsy, nature-driven community of Bolinas a few miles outside of San Francisco. Her dad was friends with Jefferson Airplane as a child and even rebuilt Jerry Garcia’s house. Amanson started writing music on guitar when things got tense at home, and further honed her voice at the Pratt Institute in New York, finding a love for long haiku poetry. After recording some demos, she enlisted friends to flesh out the songs and reached out to producer Calvin Lauber (boygenius, Paramore) to record them. The finished product was her first record Thanks A Million, released under the name Dino Expedition back in 2024. 

    Photo by Laila Holmes

    During that experience, Amanson decided to leave Pratt. “I would rather go into debt over making records than school,” she said. After a lineup change cemented Aiden Velazquez on bass and McCabe Teems on drums, the trio decided to honor their commitment to each other with a name change, finding inspiration in Cat Power’s 1996 record, Myra Lee. The band recorded Capture The Flag in two days in March of last year with producer Jeremy Harris (Fruit Bats, Allegra Krieger).

    The record opens with “Corkscrew Drawers,” which Amanson wrote about her mom’s battle with alcoholism, captured in lines like “Found you at the end of a staircase/Face-down and untorn.” It’s a mournful yet assured song, anchored by steady guitars and undulating viola. Amanson intentionally writes without any filler words, creating vignettes that her subject matter could surely read into. But for Amanson, that’s the point. 

    “Usually, with addiction, you’re in denial a lot. I’ve just found that songwriting has been the only way I’m able to communicate with my parents, how certain things have messed me up,” she said. “Once I started making this music and sending it to them, things started to change for the better. It’s been life changing for me.”

    After “Corkscrew Drawers,” the band settles into a dancier alt-rock sound, but Amanson’s lyrics never lose their edge. Penultimate track “Dean” features wavering shoegaze guitar in the intro, notes bending and releasing like the swell of the ocean tide finally hitting a distant shore. Amanson wrote it about her younger sister, Ondine, who almost drowned before she was two years old after a handoff between her mom and other sister went wrong. “Creature of the oceans water/Swam before she even knew how too,” she sings, reflecting on seconds that felt like an eternity until Ondine, whose name derives from a French word meaning “wave,” was finally found and pulled out. 

    Amanson touches on more family dynamics across the record, with “Magpie” exploring her dad’s tumultuous relationship with his sister, who became a born-again Christian after a shared childhood of abuse (“He didn’t forget/The baggage you kept/Chose faith instead of facing the past”). But she turns inward for songs like “Trapped” and “Ten,” the latter about her experience coming out. Throughout the record, there’s a sense that Amanson is actively reliving her family’s history, square in the middle of the memories of her loved ones, however painful. In “Ten,” she faces herself, but this time she has good news to share. “I think it’s me putting my 20 year old self with my 10 year old self and just being like, hey, I’m here with you,” she said. “See how much you have grown and changed.”

    Capture The Flag is out now on all streaming platforms and for purchase on Bandcamp.

  • The Fourteen Bears in Summer and Winter | Comp

    July 14th, 2026

    Written by Shea Roney

    Back in June, Duped Zine shared a compilation titled The Fourteen Bears in Summer and Winter. Operating out of Chapel Hill, North Carolina, an area that has not gone unnoticed these past years in the world of independent music, Duped has always carved their own path of pop-centric, enduring and incredibly heartfelt musical contributions.

    Playing a key role in the Big Pop Show the past two years, Duped continues to showcase some of the best artists out there. Although not all from NC, this comp focuses on the connected spirit of collaboration, friendship and fandom. Put together by the members of the band Little Chair, the comp includes artists such as The Matildas, Entrez Vouz, David T, K9, Sleep Tight Tiger, The Laughing Chimes, Sacred Heart Academy, Hill View #73, The Sourdrops, Deerest Friends, Little Chair, and more!

    See the track list here:

    1. Verity Den – How Is It Now
    2. Lud – Lud Yard
    3. The Matildas – Forever My Talisman
    4. Entrez Vous – Know Your Neighbors
    5. David T. – Side-On
    6. The Laughing Chimes – It’s 3 Until It’s 4
    7. k9 – Get Loaded and Smile
    8. Sleep Tight Tiger – Talia
    9. Sacred Heart Academy – Give It a Little More Time
    10. Song People – Fairweather
    11. Little Chair – Ice Bear
    12. Deerest Friends – Don’t Speak Here
    13. The Sourdrops – Left In a Drawer
    14. Hill View #73 – Talk Shit (demo)

    The Fourteen Bears in Summer and Winter can be purchased on a very limited run of cassettes as well as digitally on bandcamp.

  • “Spend my days how I spend this one life”, Lolo Wawa Shares “Meridian/Fondly” | Single

    July 13th, 2026

    Written by Hazel Rain

    “Will you hold me in the palm of your hand, will you hold me at all?” Lolo Wawa (the stage name of Lauren Wallach) creates a comforting testament to the passage of time and the changing nature of relationships in her debut singles “Meridian” and “Fondly,” released January 23, 2026 on Bandcamp, and later to other platforms.

    Lauren is a twenty-five year old singer based in Bellingham, Washington. She creates vivid musical worlds built around self-exploration and the people and places she cares about. One of the lead vocalists and songwriters of the folk-rock band Bellflower, and a vocalist for the Americana band Dogwood, she has recently begun exploring her own sound as a songwriter. 

    “Meridian” is an immersive comfort of the themes of girlhood, hope, daily moments, and time passing. There is strong wordplay, with lines such as “Zoe smells like jasmine and dogwood / hold my heart in your teeth like a dog would.” “Fondly” navigates losing someone kindly and without resentment, while still hoping to know them. She captures imagery of doubt and insecurity through the metaphors “am I a thorn in your side? Am I a fly in your lemonade?” The songs pair perfectly together as a way of moving forward gently. Lauren writes intimately of everyday objects, small details and moments, and connection with others; her vivid lyricism including the seasons, birthday candles, mood rings, backyard swings, and letters. 

    Her vocals are strong and clear, featuring glowing backing harmonies from Electra Richards and Rubin Hochhauser. There are gorgeous instrumental interludes, combined from Lauren’s guitar and glockenspiel playing, fiddle that mirrors the vocal melody from Rubin Hochhauser, and mellow drums by Phoebe Setter. The tracks were recorded, mixed and mastered by Zach Miller, who played guitar, tambourine, bass and sparkles. 

    “Meridian/Fondly” is available on all platforms. Keep an eye out for more Lolo Wawa releases and performances, and check out the projects of Bellflower and Dogwood!

  • Loose Leaf Fest | Bands

    July 10th, 2026

    On July 18th, we are partnering up with our friends over at pink slip zine and the pub to bring the first Loose Leaf Fest! This will be an evening caught at the intersection between the underground music and DIY zine makers that keep our local scenes vibrant and inviting.

    The evening will be filled with sweet sweet tunes by Abel, Sleep Tight Tiger, Hollow Bastion, and Mold Gold. Get acquainted with the folks who will be playing at Loose Leaf Fest!

    Mold Gold (St. Louis)

    Curious, yet incredibly endearing, Mere Harrach’s words are experienced and beautiful; a dusty fortune, a prized keepsake to hold on to for when you need it most. Amongst discombobulated bits of noise, trinkets collecting in the background, Mold Gold’s varying collections become emblematic of discovery itself. Where lucid string arrangements can weigh heavy in the moment, and Mere’s melodies become willfully poignant amongst the starry-night landscape and all that falls below.

    Hollow Bastion (Chicago)

    With twangy guitars and bona fide melodies, Hollow Bastion writes songs in par to a shoot-the-shit with your closest friends. It’s a crash course in infatuation; live fast and dream big. Where pop songs are tuned to the sleepy drip of Speedway coffee, and anticipations stain the tabletop, blushed with little rings from glasses raised and lowered with habit over the years.

    Sleep Tight Tiger (Ypsilanti)

    Praising their colorful influences and sharp impulses, Sleep Tight Tiger play tunes that stick like bubblegum in your hair and a skip in your step. It’s a whirlwind of bonafide fun, in part due to the friendship and collaboration that comes so effortlessly to the group. Their debut EP, Plum Something, has awakened an animal inside us all. And with star filled eyes, STT will never be deterred to lead with a bit of whimsy or a nasty bite.

    Abel (Colombus)

    Along with the Midwest prophets and scruffy rock n roll disciplinaries who have done their time and got their hands dirty, Abel continues to be a band that can’t stop evolving. Last year’s record, How to Get Away with Nothing, follows the Columbus group’s collective sounds into a deeper, much more haunting pool of reverberated grifters, ecstatic townies and irresistible melodies that sip from the cup of glory.

    Loose Leaf Fest will be a PWYC event hosted at Dovetail Brewery. Along with zinesters, My Darling Ghost will be selling their special loose-leaf tea blends. Bring your friends and crafts! Hope to see you there.

  • Van Goth x ugly hug | Guest List vol. 114

    July 8th, 2026

    Written by Shea Roney | Photo by Emely Truong

    Every Wednesday, the ugly hug shares a playlist personally curated by an artist/band that we have been enjoying. This week we have a collection of songs put together by the Brooklyn-based band, Van Goth.

    Composed of duo Sydney Salk and Simon Schadler, Van Goth squeaked out their debut LP Is It? back in February. It’s a collection that stands out from its surroundings, minimal in its delivery, yet foundational in the youthful malaise that comes for us all. The instrumentation is fidgety, almost unassuming in its effectiveness, as the duo play off of angular rhythms and tempting click tracks. Not to mention the humorous quips mixed with this unpredictability that resonates just as casual as it is damning to the restless confessionals at play — Dance, dance, boogie? Whenever I get the chance. Through it all, Is It? becomes a point of reflection for the duo as they drift towards maturity, yet the darkness is still illuminated by the tip of a lit cigarette in a pair of dark sunglasses.

    About the playlist, the duo shared;

    We chose a mix of songs that inspired us when starting Van Goth and some that are inspiring us now as we work on new music! Lots of off-kilter electronics, sparse beats, and a dry sense of humor. Songs like this remind us to pare back and enjoy the empty spaces. We often joke about how hard it is to describe what we do musically and we hope this playlist matches that ethos.

    Listen to Van Goth’s playlist HERE!

    Listen to Is It? out now. Snag it on a very limited run of tapes as well.

  • A Doll For Abigail by A Doll For Abigail | Album Review 

    July 6th, 2026

    Written by Karly Jo 

    In the broadest sense, A Doll for Abigail’s Self-titled debut is beautifully tragic loud music. It crosses the jagged, yet blurry line between the worlds of Screamo and Post-hardcore. Chicago continues to be a city filled with creatives seeing what musical boundaries they can push next. A Doll for Abigail is a prime example of this. 

    “A Day from Today” gives an introduction into what this band is capable of. The violin work played by StefanÍa Quiñones is weaved throughout this first track seamlessly, right up against a pummeling rhythm section. The violin serves as this melodic bookend throughout the album. Track two, “Gray Sky”, is your classic screamo number with the chaotic, back and forth screams of main vocalist/bassist Cole Rickert, as well as from drummer J Caboose and guitarist Sean Paul Matt Jr. The bridge of this song was very reminiscent of Bullets-Era My Chemical Romance (which I’m sure there’s more callbacks to this era of Emo/Screamo I haven’t caught yet). 

    Track six, “Love”, is the album’s longest song, just under three minutes and thirty seconds. It’s a song laced with so much tension and release, where the guitar riffs build and then ring out over Rickert’s outpour of emotion in lyrical form. Hearing the lines “It doesn’t take much to soften up your heart” and then into “And Love” screamed over beautiful, searing riffs is sure to make you want to put your head in your hands and take it all in. “Step Up to the Plate” was another hard hitter. A fun, bouncy track, filled with dueling riffs, and loud/soft parts down in classic screamo fashion. “Lieutenant Dan” is also another track I could definitely see myself screaming the words back, when I get a chance to see these guys live. 

    “Hope Against Hope” serves as the perfect closer to this album. A perfectly haunting track once again laced with beautiful Violin double stops atop a finger-plucked acoustic guitar. The album is a cathartic listen- even at its softest moments. A fiery debut for A Doll for Abigail.

    You can listen to A Doll for Abigail wherever you find your music.

  • Loose Leaf Fest | Zinesters

    July 3rd, 2026

    On July 18th, we are partnering up with our friends over at pink slip zine and the pub to bring the first Loose Leaf Fest! This will be an evening caught at the intersection between the underground music and DIY zine makers that keep our local scenes vibrant and inviting. Along with music by Abel, Sleep Tight Tiger, Hollow Bastion, and Mold Gold, several local zine makers will be tabling their work.

    Kicking off the night with a skills-based workshop, led by Charlie Chute, attendees will have the chance to craft and collab on their own zines. Supplies will be provided, but feel free to bring anything you’d like to work on.

    Get acquainted with the folks who will be hosting tables at Loose Leaf Fest!

    Charlie Chute (Workshop Leader)

    “As a queer multidisciplinary artist, my work explores the intersections of materiality, gender, sexuality, identity and relationships with myself and others. Image, text, the process of making, and the act of processing the emotions that come with it are central to my practice. My work is largely autobiographical. Based on my own lived experiences, it becomes a way to move through different themes as they emerge. Working across photography, film, printmaking, poetry, comics, illustration, and zines, I create imagined spaces and conversations to help understand my thoughts, feelings, and the world better.”

    Analogue Villain

    Nando Espinosa Herrera is a freelance photographer, pseudo visual artist, and cat parent. Currently exploring print as medium and form, you can find him offering chilly-powdered lollies to friends who need a little spicy sweetness in their lives.

    Fiilthy Glo

    A back alley artists collective. Fiilthy Glo is a zine rooted in Chicago catering to the experimental ((&& slightly strange)). Run by independent creatives,, we strive to cultivate a community that celebrates authenticity and uplifts the unconventional. All misfits welcome.

    • FiiLTHY’s Substack
    • Visit Fiilthy Glo’s site here!

    Kenaussy

    “Throughout my exploration of not so well-versed self identity, I’ve been drawn back to the duality of being a woman. As a multimedia artist, my work primarily deals with themes of womanhood, connection through environment, identity, sexuality and community/ “alternative” culture. I am currently a masters student at the School of the Art Institute of Chicago pursuing my MFA in photography.”

    • Visit Lexi Raia’s site here!

    Ninas Tristes

    Rebecca Arroyo and Ari Franco’s creative partnership traces its roots back to high school, sparked by a mutual love for art, books, and film. But it was during the summer of 2015, lounging on the grass fields of Dvorak Park, that Niñas Tristes truly came into bloom. Over a pint of brown liquor, they traded stories of romantic letdowns and personal histories, moments that now fuel their visual storytelling. As native Chicago artists, they use layers of paper, memory, and nostalgia to transform intimate vulnerability into collective art.

    Roadhouse Magazine

    Roadhouse Magazine is a space for Chicago’s DIY music and art scene to come together. We feature reviews of local musicians, upcoming bands and albums, and showcase other creative work like photography and poetry from Chicago musicians within our physical print magazine. Our goal is to give artists, fans, and everyone in between a platform to discover, share, and celebrate the work happening in our city.

    • Visit Roadhouse’s website here!

    Weird Grrrl Zine

    Weirdgrrrlzine is a bi-yearly self published magazine based in Chicago, IL. The zine began in 2021 by Syd Wrigley as a way to cope with becoming disabled, and is now sixteen issues running.

    Loose Leaf Fest will be a PWYC event hosted at Dovetail Brewery. Along with zinesters, My Darling Ghost will be selling their special loose-leaf tea blends. Bring your friends and crafts! Hope to see you there.

  • 103 Fever: “Is This Anything?” | Interview

    July 2nd, 2026

    Written by Ella Hardie | Photo “5/25/2026 at Empty Bottle” by Will Blakley

    “LOOKING FOR A REASON?”

    A reason to… what? To live? To believe? To dance? To laugh? To cry? Or maybe the better question is: What is the reason? Is music the reason? The joy of creation? The joy of friendship? Joy in general? Is it some kind of a Higher Power? What even is “A Reason” in the first place? A band like 103 Fever—whose sheer existence feels like nothing short of a cosmic miracle—somehow answers all of these questions and none of them. 

    After months of jamming and collaborating on each other’s solo projects, best friends Mary Jennifer (MaryMary!), Laura Cecelia (Future Nest), and Sage Irene (Friendship City Unlimited) teamed up to form 103 Fever, a self-described “DIY alt-country electronic jam band” that stretches and pokes holes in our conventional conception of country music like it’s Play-Doh. 103 Fever is a God-given testament to the idea of Musical Soulmates, a group of musicians who make ear candy you can suck on, chew on, or swallow whole. If you live in Chicago, you might’ve seen some variation of their “LOOKING FOR A REASON?” show flyers on social media or papered around town: you may remember the one with a drawing of three fish intertwined or the one with three white-snouted horses; maybe the one with a rather forlorn-looking cat; a stoic mutt; a Victorian child sipping a glass of milk. With such elusive, ominous, (forgive me) esoteric branding and no barrier to entry—after all, they were advertising an Empty Bottle Free Monday show—I can’t imagine you wouldn’t be at least a little bit curious.

    103 Fever’s extra special debut show took place on May 25th, 2026, a triple-header for Mary, Laura, and Sage, who played exclusively in all three sets—in Mary’s words, “three bands, three girls, three releases, one night, zero dollars.” The lineup was bolstered by familiar names Future Nest and MaryMary! (both of whom have LPs set to release by the end of the year), in addition to the sale of new merch and same-day single releases from each project. Over the course of nearly three hours, Mary, Laura, and Sage only disembarked from the stage to jump into the moshpit with a tambourine, microphone, and cowbell (respectively), and to run up to the green room for quick-changes between sets. For MaryMary!’s closing performance, Sage and Laura reemerged wearing neon safety vests over their bras while Mary donned a white evening gown. When the lights eventually came up, the band shared sweat-soaked embraces to the tune of cheers from every corner of the room. I walked out of Empty Bottle that night with my ears ringing, a new MaryMary! t-shirt, and a big fat smile on my face; if you came in search of a reason, you probably left with several.

    5/22/2026: 103 Fever @ [Their Studio]:

    This interview features 103 Fever: Mary Jennifer (MaryMary!), Laura Cecelia (Future Nest), and Sage Irene (Friendship City Unlimited). It has been edited and condensed for clarity.

    It’s Friday afternoon and the show is on Monday night. Mary greets me at the front door of an unassuming brick building in Pilsen and leads me up the echoey stairs—what once was an industrial building is now a buzzing hub where artists can be as loud and as weird as they want. Upon entering, I count four “LOOKING FOR A REASON?” flyers: in the stairwell, on the walls, on the door to 103 Fever’s studio. In refreshing contrast to the cavernous hallway, 103 Fever’s rehearsal space feels like your cool older cousin’s basement: warm wood paneled walls, shag carpet, a tufted Bart Simpson rug on display, a tv playing UFO 50 on mute, synthesizers, guitars, a drum-kit in the corner, string lights, old Future Nest and MaryMary! show flyers, mini stained glass hanging in the window. We all formally shake hands before sitting/laying on the floor like old friends at a sleepover. The following interview is—pun intended—an absolute fever dream. 

    I start recording mid-conversation:

    ELLA HARDIE: Let’s just go around with some introductions… Maybe we should start with your solo stuff and then bring it together? Who are you, what kind of music do you make, who wants to go first?

    SAGE IRENE: Mary should go first, she just announced her album today—

    Mary smiles and clears her throat:

    MARY JENNIFER: My name’s Mary Jennifer, I play music as MaryMary!, and I think I make synth-punk… mixed with post-punk-indie-rock… with an electronic edge to it… It’s kinda hard to specifically describe—y’know, it’s synth-punk music you can dance and have fun to. And these two lovely ladies play in my backing band. Sage plays the drums—

    LAURA CECELIA: I do bass… and guitar… and synth… and sing…

    MJ: And sing—

    LC: I do it all… Except for drums, because— 

    SI: I got that handled, I got that on lock—

    LC: Under the rug—

    SI: Under the rug… I cut up the rug onstage… I got big ‘ol shears—

    LC: We should start bringing scissors—like, a bunch of scissors, onstage.

    SI: After the show we cut all the wires—

    LC: “We’re gonna make sure this is the LAST SHOW that Empty Bottle ever plays—”

    Laughter.

    MJ: These two have been playing in the MaryMary! band since January… Laura for a little longer, since Dream Girl last April, which was a big show that we put together. I’ve been playing with Laura’s project, Future Nest, on-and-off since last July… 

    Laura nods. 

    MJ: For my solo stuff, I have an album coming out on July 3rd which I’m super excited about. I announced it, as of this interview, today, and it’s called I Love You I’m Glad I Exist, which I’ve been working on for the last two years now. I’m very, very, very psyched for it to finally be coming out—

    SI & LC (in perfect sync): MaryMary!’s VeryVeryVery—

    MJ: WHOA—

    All of us crack up.

    SI: Wavelength! These frequencies are amplifying.

    MaryMary! 5/25/2026 by Will Blakley.

    ***

    MJ: Shall we…?

    EH: Laura, what kind of music do you make?

    LC: I’m Laura Cecelia… I have a lot of music under my belt, but the primary project that I work on is Future Nest, which I would say is an industrial—

    SI: It’s like… sex music—

    MJ: Industrial sex music—

    Laura starts laughing and concedes.

    LC: Industrial sex music, I guess—

    SI: Very wet … steamy… 

    MJ: Metallic—

    SI: Metallic … like body-roll—

    MJ: Cronenberg’s Crash—

    LC: Blood… milk… skin… muscle… wire… metal…

    SI: Future Nest makes music for people who: boutique fragrances…

    MJ: And no deodorant. No deodorant ever. We’re a No Deodorant Band—

    SI: Future Nest makes music for lickin’ sweat off your lover—

    LC: For bottling the sweat off your lover—

    SI: Bottling it up and saving it for later… Keepin’ it in your fridge, puttin’ ice cubes in it, givin’ it to your guests and not telling them about it—

    At this point, we’re all in bits and Laura eventually goes:“Ew that’s GROSS!”

    LC: And that’s what Future Nest sounds like!

    She laughs.

    LC: Future Nest is my main project, and I’m coming out with an album in the fall but I won’t announce a date for it yet… Sage is gonna to be mixing the whole record because she is a wizard. It’s going to be really, really exciting. It’s been, like, seven years in the making—

    EH: Oh my God…? When did your last record come out?

    LC: The last record came out in 2021, and this one includes remnants of the stuff I was working on at that time that didn’t make the cut, as well as what it’s evolved into. So it’s been about seven years in the process. In Future Nest I sing and perform—most of what I do is just performance. I am very kinetic and very…

    SI: It’s a very visceral performance—

    LC: 50% of the show, in vocal delivery and body movement, is improvised. 

    SI: 50% improv, 50% epic. A million percent epic, though. It’s good shit—

    LC: Mary’s played in the band a couple times, she’s done synth and aux-percussion, but on Monday she’s doing…

    MJ: Synth and guitar, and some samples—

    LC: And Sage is gonna do…

    SI: The drums.

    EH: Damn, you’re holding it down—

    SI: Pretty much. I’m like Animal, I’m uncaged—

    MJ: You’re also bright red and fuzzy—

    SI: I’m red and fuzzy! Yeah, people say I kinda look like Animal when I drum. Which is cool.

    MJ: You’ve got that Muppet bounce—

    LC: You’re being puppeted. You’re a vessel for a Greater Power. 

    MJ: The Power of Rhythm.

    Future Nest 5/25/2026 by Will Blakley.

    ***

    SI: Well, I’m Sage Irene… I make solo music sometimes as Friendship City Unlimited, but recently I’ve been in MaryMary! and Future Nest, and then they asked me to join 103 Fever and I kinda just took over it—

    Mary and Laura shrug and nod.

    SI: It was gonna be, like, disco…?

    LC: It was gonna be, like, minimalist techno—

    SI: And then I was like: Nahhhh… We’re doin’ country music.

    LC: We’re gettin’ our reeds and whackin’ our heels and stuff… And that’s not a joke.

    MJ: I’m makin’ horse noises—

    SI: It worked well, we all mesh very well. I met Laura a couple months ago but she’s like an old friend to me, we’re very tight like that. I think they all just get the vibe. I met Mary at [a record store] a little while ago…

    EH: Yeah, I guess we should backtrack a little bit… I want to talk about 103 Fever’s origin story specifically—

    Mary turns to Sage:

    MJ: We met at a record store. 

    SI: We met on Hinge. 

    MJ: No we did not!

    Laughter.

    MJ: The earnest story is that you were on a date with somebody who I was also seeing at the time, and she brought you to My Place of Work to be like: “Y’all should meet!”

    EH: Well… She was lowkey right…. 

    A beat. Sage furrows her brows.

    SI: Why did she bring me there…?

    MJ: I don’t know!!

    SI: She also rolled a joint and didn’t let me hit any of it when she said bye to me. Swear to God. 

    Laughter.

    SI: But then I met Mary and it was cool. 

    Mary smiles. I turn to Laura:

    LC: Well, [Mary and I] were separated at birth through time and space. We’re twins—

    MJ: There is a three year difference between the separation at birth but we’re still twins, which whisked her to Texas and me to Washington State. 

    LC: It was rough. It was a weird couple of years that I had to live without my twin, but then we found each other… I was planning to move up to Chicago on January 1st of 2025, but I came to visit in November of 2024 and I thought, “Well, Future Nest is very mobile,” so I brought my stuff and I was gonna play a show. I found out about Mary’s music because I was looking for artists in Chicago and I saw a video of her performing and I thought it was super cool, so I reached out and asked if she wanted to play a show on “this date” at “a venue.” But I needed help booking it because I didn’t know any of the venues in the area, and she was like, “Don’t play this one, play this one, this is the best one, this is my favorite spot,” and she said Cole’s Bar, and I was like, “Cool!” So I started setting it up and she was like, “Hey, actually I can’t play this show, I’m working a wedding that night—”

    MJ: A horrible straight wedding—

    LC: And I was like, “Ok!” then Mary was like, “Wait, I might not be working this wedding, can you put me on the guest list?” And I was like, “Yeah, absolutely!” And then she didn’t show up.

    Laughter.

    LC: But it was for the best because everyone got COVID. 

    We all go “Oh!”

    LC: Mary introduced me to Zoey of Shinespark and Anne of Anne Helen Welles and Avery of AAAYYYAAA—

    SI & MJ: Shoutout—

    LC: And the show was played with AAAYYYAAA and Shinespark and this band called Drake & The Beatles that was fronted by a friend of mine from Texas named Gren— 

    The band name “Drake & The Beatles” makes me snort.

    LC: But Mary didn’t come to that show and we didn’t meet, but then I moved up here and we hung out and then we were best friends. We were like: “Oh, that’s who was separated from me at at birth—”

    MJ: We found out ‘cuz we both have separate halves of the same locket, and when we put them together it glowed and did, like, a perfect note and then withered away—

    Mary and Laura proceed to match each other’s pitch in “Ahhh”’s.

    EH: I can’t wait for this scene in the biopic—

    LC: I miss that locket. It was a really good outfit piece too, so I’m a little peeved—

    MJ: No, me too! It tied every one of my outfits together—

    SI: And it exploded?

    LC: It did this kinda weird little burst and then it just crumpled up—

    SI: And then you took a deep breath in and you sucked in the dust and then both of your voices became the same. And then you swapped bodies…

    MJ: That was the crazy thing, we swapped bodies—

    LC: We swapped back, it was only for seven hours—

    MJ: Yeah, it was only seven hours. We Freaky Friday’d but it was a Tuesday.

    SI: “Freaky Friday’d on a Tuesday…” That’s a Brockhampton bar—

    Laughter. Mary looks at me:

    MJ: We’re very inspired by Brockh—

    She stops herself.

    LC: You can’t even say it out loud!

    Sage on drums 5/25/2026 by Will Blakley.

    EH: I didn’t realize how recent this was! Did you start making music together pretty much immediately? 

    LC: It was really funny because Mary and I, when we first hung out, she showed me a song of hers and I was like, “Damn, she’s really good.” It was “Week Goes On and On,” which is technically the first but also the second track off her upcoming record—

    MJ: Or, technically second but kinda first—

    LC: Kinda first. It’s like squares and circles, one’s the other and the other’s not—

    Laughter.

    LC: But she said something like, “It’s hard for me to want to work with someone on music immediately because I feel like I have my way that I go about creating, I feel like it usually doesn’t mesh,” which I agreed with too, but then we started working on MaryMary!’s set for Dream Girl together and we found out that we actually click very well… We started hanging out multiple times every week playing music, working on music, coming up with stuff. This was last summer…?

    MJ: Laura and I realized really quickly that we make very good music together. And then with Sage, it was the type of thing where when we got to know each other we realized that a lot of our musical philosophies aligned, so I asked her to play a couple shows in the MaryMary! Band, and I feel like the three of us, as a unit, clicked very well. I remember Laura and I were planning 103 Fever as a duo thing, and we were leaving a show and talking and we were like… “What if we just asked Sage to be in the band? And it’s like… ‘We’re a band?” So now we’re a band.

    EH: When you say your musical philosophies are aligned, what are your musical philosophies? How did you end up discovering that you had those things in common?

    MJ: I think just, like, the joy of creation—

    SI: I’m crazy about music. It’s kinda all I talk about—

    MJ: All we think about, a little bit—

    SI: The first few times I hung out with Mary, all I would do was talk to her about music, which was cool, ‘cuz she works at a record store and I could be like, “Oh, you know this band?” “Can I tell you about this?” I dunno, I just get super excited to talk about music and it’s cool to have friends to talk about it with all the time. 

    MJ: I feel like we’re also all of a very similar mindset—

    SI: Of the ilk—

    MJ: Yes, of a similar ilk. Girls of a similar ilk—

    We all laugh.

    SI: Girls sipping similar milk—

    MJ: Girls of a similar milk—

    LC: “Girls sipping similar milk”

    SI: Ok, write that down! That’s a good lyric! 

    LC: Is anybody writing this down?

    EH: I actually did write that down. 

    MJ: Y’know, creating for the sake of it—

    SI: Just making a bunch of shit all the time—

    MJ: Making a bunch of shit all the time and not necessarily being beholden to what gear we have, but working with our limitations and not letting that stop us from making whatever we want to make. Sage in particular is really into tape and lo-fi recording and at-home studio tricks… I feel like you’re one of the best audio engineers I’ve ever met.

    LC: Certainly. Without a doubt. 

    SI: Thank you, I try! I love tape machines, I love my Tascam 488… I think we just like to have fun. I wouldn’t do it if it wasn’t fun… I think that’s all people need to know about this band, it’s gonna be a fun time—

    MJ: I mean, I don’t know how else you could describe 103 Fever besides, like, alt-country electronic jam band—

    LC: I would describe it as interesting… curious music… it’s fascinating—

    MJ: A Queer Trio of Frauds.

    LC: That’s true, we are frauds. Nothing we’re saying in this interview is true, by the way—

    SI: I heard the new Geese record and I said: “I could do better than that.”

    Laughter.

    Mary hands me an EXCLUSIVE piece of 103 Fever merch that now resides on my fridge: a sticker that says “A QUEER TRIO OF FRAUDS. SOME VERY PECULIAR ABILITIES, 103 FEVER.” She smirks.

    MJ: You can keep that.

    ***

    Via @103fevertheband.

    EH: I wrote this down in my notes when I was prepping, but the entire time I’ve known my roommate she’s been saying that before she starts a band she needs to find her “Musical Soulmate,” an almost mystical, otherworldly kind of connection she’s looking for… but it seems like you’ve all actually found that…

    LC: It’s kinda like when Noah heard the word of God—

    MJ: Why are you getting religious…

    SI: I had a good story! Can I tell my good story? I had a sincere moment I would like to share—

    MJ: Well, this is one of the best stories—

    EH: Famously…

    It’s at this moment that I notice Sage’s yellow baseball cap says: “ I ❤ JESUS” and jot down a note about it.

    LC: Noah kinda had to take faith into his own hands, and he didn’t know if it was gonna be real or not because he was just hearing voices that told him to build the Ark, y’know? And then built it, and the flood happened, and I bet he felt so good that the flood happened. ‘Cuz he was right! Anyway, what’s your stupid story, Sage?

    We all start DYING laughing.

    MJ: Ella, I need to know what you just wrote down—

    EH: I wrote down: “Sage wearing ‘I Heart Jesus Hat’ parenthesis yellow parenthesis Noah.”

    MJ: Well, take note of the second part of what the hat says…

    I look at Sage’s hat again and realize that it, in fact, reads: “I ❤ JESUS etc.”

    EH: Oh my God. It’s a fucking Wilco hat—

    SI: It’s worse! 

    LC: Sage, what’s your story?

    SI: It was when we played the Burlington in March for Mary’s Birthday Show. We’d just gotten this practice space, we were here a ton and we were starting to sound really good, and that show I felt so confident in—

    MJ: We felt very tight and, like, harmonious—

    SI: We were so happy and giddy the whole time, and we had so many people come up to us after and be like, “I love seeing bands have fun like that.” Laura is always smiling so hard while we play, and there are so many moments in Mary’s songs where we have to do a crazy big hit all at once and it just blows the speakers out, and it’s so rewarding to look over at both of them and think: “I am so happy to be up here with y’all. I’m so happy I found y’all.” I just moved up to the city from the suburbs too, like, in August. I’ve always wanted to live in Chicago, and being in this music scene is kinda all I’ve ever wanted to do. I had a cousin who was in the music scene when I was growing up and I was so inspired by him; I was just like, “I want to be a part of that so bad.” I was, like, thirteen going to all the local shows and wanting to be so engrossed in it. It took me a couple years, but this is awesome. I actually did it. I have bandmates to go onstage with and play shows at these venues I used to go to as a kid… This is the actual dream. We don’t need anything more than this—I have my best friends, so it’s sweet.

    MJ: There are ways for the comment, “You look like you’re having so much fun onstage,” to be treated as a back-handed thing, but I do feel like it’s earnest. Especially in the way people were talking about the last string of shows we’ve played, I think that’s what made the music so Magical and Good, it’s how much fun we’re having with one another and how comfortable we are with each other.

    EH: That’s what I’m always so struck by when I see your shows. It is one of those things where you leave and you feel so alive and it’s just so affirming of, like, The Power of Music and Friendship… Which feels cringe when you say it out loud but it’s true. 

    SI: We’re gonna kill cringe with this band. It’s gonna be ok to love your friends, everybody’s gonna start hugging their friends goodbye after our shows—

    LC: Every friend gets a hug—

    SI: You can text your friend “Good Morning…” Tell your friends you love them every day—

    LC: In 103 World, we love our friends… 

    SI: We’re gonna create a new type of “woke.”

    MJ: We’re gonna create a new “woke” that’s all about respecting our friends and lifting them up and where all friends share a bed every night. 

    LC: Exactly. It’s all about faith. It’s all about the deliverance of faith… Have you ever heard the story of Noah? 

    ***

    SI: Who is our music for?

    I laugh.

    EH: That’s a good question, who does 103 Fever make music for?

    SI: We came up with the answers—

    Sage, Mary, and Laura all rapid-fire:

    • Friends
    • Lesbians
    • Girls Who Don’t Wear Deodorant
    • Masochists
    • Sadists
    • Girls Who Used To Be Horse Girls
    • Gamblers
    • Healthy Gamblers 
    • People Who Buy One Dollar Scratch-Offs
    • People Who Buy HUGE Gambling Pools But Take Good Care Of Their Bodies
    • Gamblers Who Also Run Every Once in a While
    • Gamblers Who Jog and Eat Salads
    • Inflation Fetishists
    • Sneakerheads
    • Hi-Fi Enthusiasts
    • People Who Still Make Vine Compilations on YouTube
    • People Who Were Really Affected By The Blueberry Scene in Willy Wonka
    • Trans Folk-Punk Artists Who Were Once Vine Stars (“I can’t name any but if they’re out there, this is for you”)
    • Construction Workers
    • People Who Aren’t in Unions
    • People Who Are in Unions
    • People Who Wear Sandals
    • People Who Don’t Wear Sandals
    • People With A Little Bit of Sand on Them From The Beach Still
    • People Who Have Sand in Their Teeth Still
    • People Who Like Sand in Their Meat
    • People Who Like Toasting Their Buns
    • People Who Like Toasting Their Buns and Sand in Their Teeth

    MJ: What was your question?

    ***

    EH: How do you know when a song is for your solo project or when it’s a 103 Fever song? How are those processes different? 

    SI: We’ve only ever written songs all together, we’re not allowed to do solo stuff. It’s almost all born out of  jams… or saying something funny to make each other laugh and then just repeating it over and over again—

    MJ: And then literally being like: “Wait, that could be a song…” We have a song called “Beat It—”

    SI: We wrote that song in, like, 30 seconds—

    LC: And the song is only about… 30 seconds…

    MJ: I feel like our song, “Like a Horse,” started from [Sage] doing joke rap bars that we were like… Wait… those are actually really good lyrics… And then we spun it into, like, an alt-country song—

    LC: We were doing Weezer—

    MJ: We were doing Weezer?

    LC: It was some Weezer song and we just sang what we thought the lyrics should be—

    MJ: We have a tendency to jam for an hour uninterrupted and just kinda jump into other ideas and grooves from one another. We could be rockin’ an idea for ten minutes straight and then immediately someone starts playing something else and we all take a step back and jump into that. And that kinda spins into what become our actual songs.

    LC: We’re very good at dynamic listening with each other, which is really helpful. Like, if someone does something different, we’ll all kinda pivot and be like, “Ok, this is where we need to follow at this point.” Which I think is just good jamming in general—like, good musicianship—but we’re all of a similar sensibility in what we’re trying to create… When someone does something different, it’s like, “How can we continue this in a way that expands it from what it is, but also kinda feels in line with ourselves?”

    SI: We like to ask: “Is this anything?”

    MJ: “Is this anything” is the big thing, yeah—

    LC: A lot of times, the answer is NO—

    SI: It’s good, we keep ourselves in check! We can make a lotta bullshit—

    MJ: One of the rules here is: “Don’t Gas Each Other’s Flops.”

    SI: “Don’t gas my flops—”

    LC: “Don’t gas my flop…”

    MJ: There have been times, point-blank, when I’ve been like, “Ok, what about this?” and the response is, earnestly, “That’s nothing.” And I’m like, “Cool.”

    LC: We record almost everything we do, so it’s fun to look back on. 

    MJ: We have countless hour long voice-memos—

    LC: We’ve only had this place since March—

    SI: But we kinda don’t leave it…

    LC: My phone is almost completely out of storage now because of all the voice-memos that I’ve taken, like gigabytes and gigabytes worth of voice-memos… and voice-memos don’t take up a lot of storage at all—

    SI: The archives will go crazy…

    MJ: Also, it’s worth noting that for a lot of these jams, we go into it with fully no intention of it ever being a song we play onstage, but just stuff that we do to make each other laugh, “Hey There Laura” being an example… That won’t make any sense to anyone reading this…

    Sage and Laura sing a line from their (currently unreleased) song,“Hey There Laura:”

    LC & SI: “Hey there Laura / Whaddaya say?”

    MJ: But the voice-memo for “Hey There Laura” is, like, 35 minutes long! And there are ideas present in it that I think could be spun into a song that we’ll play onstage or record sometime.

    SI: I like the little magic moments in music where you’re, like “Oh, that fuckin’ hit.” I’m a Song Girl—like, I like albums, but I like to play a song 20 times in a row until I’m satisfied, and usually it’s just to hear a quick one-second part of it, that magic part. In the one recorded song we have, there’s, like, one little millisecond where the bass pokes out from the guitar, and we played it on loop a couple times and we were like: “That’s cool as fuck.”

    MJ: Just ear candy—short bursts or very long bursts of ear candy. We’re trying to be a very singles and songs oriented band…That could change down the line, but I feel like for MaryMary! stuff and Future Nest stuff, both of us have been chipping away at our albums for so long. It’s a very fulfilling experience, but it can be frustrating to be working on this one project for months if not years. The idea of 103 Fever being a band that can get together, record, and release a song within a week is very exciting to me. 

    EH: How do you decide when a song is done?

    MJ: Mmmm… that’s a great question…

    SI: We haven’t done that yet—

    Laughter. 

    SI: It’s a very live band… It’s fun to do 8 minute jams and stuff, but I don’t expect people to listen to 8 minutes of noise-garage-rock recorded… So maybe it’ll be a little different when we finalize something, but—

    MJ: I also anticipate that even the songs—the way that we’re gonna be playing them onstage at our show this Monday—at a future show they’re probably going to sound completely different. I’m also sure that down the line we could play a more garage-rock set or an acoustic country set or a more electronic set… The show on Monday is gonna be entirely electronic with some guitar and bass, but I also feel like we’ve got a few shows lined up for this summer—which is a crazy feeling because no one has heard anything—

    LC: I think we have, like four shows booked already, total? And we don’t have a single song out and we’ve never played live… We’re nothing so far!

    EH: You’re just, like, a cool Instagram flyer, a cool flyer around town—

    LC: Sage designed the poster, she’s a genius for that… The voice of God spoke through her for that one. Much like the Biblical Noah.

    MJ: Much like the Biblical Noah when he built the Ark—

    SI: Much like the burning bush…

    MJ: I hate to say it, but I was one of the deniers… I thought it looked great from the jump, but every time I was like, “Should we include a little more information…?” Sage was like—

    SI: I was like, “Fuck no, Mary.”

    LC & MJ: And you were right for that—

    Laughter.

    MJ: We’re not even kidding—

    SI: No, I’m rude… I’m Rude Fever… Laura’s… Hairy Fever—

    LC: I’m Hairy Fever…?

    SI: Mary’s Mary Fever.

    MJ: Mary Fever? That’s good—

    SI: Mary Fever, Hairy Fever, and Rude Fever.

    MJ: Or Scary Fever…

    SI: And I’d be Scary Fever… If we were the Spice Girls.

    LC: Am I hairy…?

    SI: You just have, like… cool hair.

    103 Fever flyers spotted in Avondale. Boots on the ground journalism… Technically clogs* on the ground journalism.

    ***

    I check my phone and see that we’ve been talking for nearly an hour.

    EH: Alright, this is officially the longest interview I’ve ever done…

    SI: Do you think we’ll make it? Do you think we have it?

    EH: I think things are boding extremely well. I think you have it… I think I have it… I think I caught a fever… Who has a thermometer…? 

    Laughter.

    EH: But let’s wrap it up! Plug your shit, shout out some of your favs… “Dope and Inspiring,” if I may…

    (That was a cheeky callback to Mary and I’s interview from this past winter…)

    MJ: Hell yeah. We’re all releasing singles on May 25th, 103 Fever, Future Nest, and MaryMary! “Small Price to Pay” by Future Nest, “how2b” by MaryMary!, and “Good Advice (new game+)” by 103 Fever. “how2b” is gonna be the lead single off my upcoming album, I Love You I’m Glad I Exist, and it’s about learning how to be. It’s a dance-punk song and I’m releasing a single-edit so it’ll be a shortened version, only five minutes, while the album version’ll be about seven and a half. It’s groovy but you can cry to it.

    LC: And Future Nest’s single, “Small Price to Pay,” is—

    SI: “Get Your Condoms Ready.” That’s the tagline… It’s sexy, the bass is loud, the bass’ll get you movin’ —

    LC: It’s a song about lighting fires at people’s feet and having a very complicated relationship with desire—

    Laughter. A beat.

    LC: I feel like I didn’t get to say what I wanted to say about “Small Price to Pay…”

    EH: Say it! Please!

    LC: Ummm… Get your condoms ready.

    We all crack up.

    SI: The 103 Fever Song, “Good Advice (new game+)—”

    LC: What’s it about, Sage?

    SI: I dunno… I haven’t really written the lyrics yet…

    LC: The song comes out on Monday, by the way—

    SI: It’s kinda like…noise, mumble-core, garage rock… It’s cool.

    MJ: A short burst of ear candy.

    SI: Two great minutes of ear candy. I’d say listen to it about four or five times, then you’ll get it.

    LC: Mary, what music is inspiring you right now?

    SI: Bassvictim—

    MJ: Yes! Bassvictim, straight up. And World Peace DMT! Kreayshawn! D’Angelo! And in the local scene, Anne Helen Wells, Anti-Soul Organization, Celebrity DUI, Shinespark, OTM, Crisis Actress… Those aren’t all of the people who inspire me, but those are the people who are inspiring me in this exact moment.

    LC: I echo. Prefab Sprout too—

    SI: Shoutout Marcy the Baptist, she’s goated. Shoutout Massachusetts in general—

    MJ: I did an interview recently where I had a whole list of local artists I really wanted to shout out, but the two people I ended up shouting out during the interview were Soft Cell and Kendrick Lamar.

    SI: They’re really grateful for that, too—

    MJ: Had to give ‘em the MaryMary! bump—

    Laughter.

    ***

    MJ: Do we have, like, a final message?

    SI: Yeah we do… 

    They all start giggling.

    MJ: In unison…?

    Sage and Laura nod.

    103 FEVER: CHANGE THE WORLD. MY FINAL MESSAGE.

    I stop recording.

    Listen to 103 Fever’s debut single, “Good Advice (new game +),” Future Nest’s “Small Price to Pay,” & MaryMary!’s “how2b” (and while you’re at it, presave her album “I Love You I’m Glad I Exist,” which comes out on July 3rd.)

  • Lund Surk x ugly hug | Guest List vol. 113

    July 1st, 2026

    Written by Shea Roney | Photo Courtesy of Lund Surk

    Every Wednesday, the ugly hug shares a playlist personally curated by an artist/band that we have been enjoying. This week we have a collection of songs put together by the Chicago-based band, Lund Surk.

    Listen here, comrades! The revolution is here and it’s homegrown. There is no middle on the other side. The American century of humiliation is here. Back in May, Lund Surk shared Loyal Party Member, a brief yet mighty collection of fool proof pop hooks, rogue guitar solos and tender harmonies that stand for a band at their best. Built up by the contributions of Ruben Steiner (guitar, vocals), Desi Lilly (drums, keys), Charlie Johnston (guitar), Vi Matheos (bass), and Kaylyn Dix (drums), Lund Surk is a band built by and for defiance. Emphasizing the foundational warp of American exceptionalism, the capitalistic smash-and-grabs of the working class, privatized incarceration and the “us vs them” sentiments that have destroyed our world, Lund Surk make clear that there is still so much to fight for. Loyal Party Member is a reminder that every action we take in our day to day lives is inherently political. It’s our willingness to organize, to stand together, to be empathetic, to be joyful, our ability to create and share art that can reshape power. Lund Surk are ready. But they ask, “Could you be it? Could you be the tide of change?”

    About the playlist, Lund Surk shared;

    Loyal Party Member owes a lot to its influences! This playlist is a compiling of various works which the five of us drew from whilst making the record, or the things the material otherwise reminds us of. Hope you like it!

    Listen to Lund Surk’s playlist HERE!

    Listen to Loyal Party Member out now!

  • Mildred Just Wants to Hang Out, Talk Friendship and Fenceline | Interview

    June 30th, 2026

    Written by Shea Roney | Photos Courtesy of Mildred

    From the start, Mildred wasn’t going to be a band band. Back in 2020, Henry Easton Koehler (vocals, guitar), Jack Schrott (vocals, guitar) and Matt Palmquist (vocals, bass, woodwinds) would find time to jam in their shared residence of the Ward St. house in Berkeley. It was a means to spend time together when dinner was wrapped up and the dishes done. Every once in a while, Will Fortna (drums, production) would be in town and join in on the sessions. But as songs started to fall into place, each mate putting their weight of inspiration into motion, the Oakland-based band has found themselves with their debut LP, Fenceline, out in the world.

    Although these songs stick to your bones with ease, the flavors most worth savoring are derived from a slow simmer. With conversational guitars enjoying a backyard shoot-the-shit and jerry-esque jubilations galore, Mildred create a rich environment of organic patterns, sonic distortions and wholehearted harmonies that meld together so effectively. The beauty of this record is set by each member’s unique use of language. Whether that be of observational wit, natural wordplay, or their vivid musical instincts, Mildred is a group of four friends trying to write the best possible song they can. 

    Fenceline sets its pace with “UPS Brown”, a song tempting its own fate with inherent expectations. And it’s in that sentiment which has made Mildred such a good band. Like a cat sitting on the windowsill, Fenceline takes it all in. It’s not a race from boredom, but rather an implementation of it all; the stories caught between ambition and abandonment, the hearty and the hungover, the present and the perceived of our very normal day-to-days. They are the stories worth telling, and the songs we always return to.

    We recently got to chat with Mildred about the band’s place in their lives, friendship and where they can go next.

    You have received a lot of really positive press and acknowledgment for Fenceline so far, even being referred to as the ‘indie sleeper of 2026’. How have you been feeling as you let your debut LP sit out in the world? Did you have any anticipations for the record prior to its release? 

    Will Fortna: We put it out with very little in the way of expectations, but it’s felt really good to see it slowly but surely seep out into the world. It’s still incredibly surreal to see a stranger talking about our music online, or to have people come to our shows and know the music.  We’ve had some musicians we really love and respect reach out or say nice things about it, which – again – feels really good and really surreal.

    Matt Palmquist: I remember listening to the final mix, and being really pleased with the album sound. I think it is rare for me to feel that the space between the thought of the thing and the thing itself is so small; usually that translation disappoints, but in the case of fenceline, it surprised and delighted.

    Henry Easton Koehler: Feels good. I wasn’t expecting anything really. I’m kinda surprised at how proud I am of the album, so it’s nice to share it, and wild that a few people are responding to it and coming to shows who aren’t my friends. 

    Jack Schrott: It’s been surreal. I liked the album a lot when we finished it, but I had no sense that people would react so positively to it. Having some space from actively working on it and seeing the response has let me return to the songs with new ears and a renewed sense of pride. 

    Mildred operates on a “no lead writer” system. What about each other’s writing chops do you admire the most? What do you think plays off well with your individual skills and observations to make the best song you can?

    WF: Jack’s songs are so catchy and the vocal melodies so good that I often gloss over the lyrics at first, but then I’ll see them written down or a line will jump out at me as I’m drumming along and I realize what a fucking poet he is.  The way he delivers the lines can be so matter of fact or deadpan that it often hides amazing turns of phrase, profound/weird ideas, or just really funny imagery. 

    MP: The band in a way is like a meta-instrument, like a really special ancient violin that makes some crazy resonant sound so it sounds way different even though you’re playing the same notes as you usually do, so that certain tones and textures become a product of unexpected combinations rather than precise arranging. I like bringing an idea into the room, and walking out with something completely different, better, and something I would as an individual never think of. I love that, and I have a lot of respect for, trust in, and admiration for the rest of the band.

    HEK: What Matt said. Getting excited about everyone else’s ideas and songs is what keeps this thing going. I think we’re all still getting better as songwriters/ musicians/arrangers in a way that feels exciting. I also love having the opportunity to think of myself as a guitar player. That’s not something I’ve ever really identified with.

    JS: Yeah, I’m constantly surprised/inspired by everyone’s evolving songwriting. A lot of ideas still come from people working on things in isolation, but the best part of playing together is picking up instruments without a plan, wandering around, and winding up somewhere interesting. It feels like the more we play together, the more often we wind up in interesting places. I think the goal is to let the wellsprings of individual songwriting and the wellspring of weird things that emerge from playing as a band flow into the same river. 

    You all have very different day jobs, but Mildred has become a chance for you all to structure your life around music together. With no prior intentions on starting a band, where does Mildred fall into your lives? Does this release influence where you see Mildred headed in the future? 

    WF: Mildred is definitely taking on an increasingly large, perhaps disruptive, role in our lives.  We’re trying to figure out what the future holds, but I know we all want to make more music and see where things take us. 

    MP: On my dads side, my grandmother was a church organist, her dad came to the US with a clarinet, and her son was a supper club singer. For me music has always felt like an inevitability, though not a guarantee as the rest of my family was always very against me living a music life (themes that plague the liner notes like poverty, late nights, alcoholism, depression) . It’s taken some time and creativity to wrestle Mildred into existence (for the better), so I hold that space preciously.

    HEK: What Matt and Will said. I would like for us to make more records and to tour as much as we can without completely upending our lives. It feels good to be hustling a little bit, though it definitely comes with some sacrifice. I’m hopeful we will continue to figure out what feels good.

    JS: Lots of new opportunities before the band that we were not thinking about a couple months ago! Figuring it out. Like everyone else, I’m very excited about making more music.

    Living with each other, noting that your bond as artists came naturally with hanging out and playing music after dinner, what do you guys like to do together outside of music?

    WF: A lot of hanging out involves music, whether that’s listening to it, talking about it, going to shows, etc. But outside of that? Cooking meals, playing football, playing Botticelli.

    MP: Cooking meals, talking about art, life stuff, stuff you do with friends.

    HEK: We had some great $9 martinis the other night at Saul’s. 

    JS: I wish Matt and I would start playing racquetball at the Berkeley rec center again.

    The cover of Fenceline is a painting by Jack that depicts the rooftop of your old place you used to live at. Why was this image and sentiment fitting for the album cover? What did it mean to have that space? Have you been able to find a similar place since? 

    MP: I lived in the attic of that big Victorian house. To shower I would kneel under the eaves, like I was praying. I spent a lot of mornings there on the roof, petting jones the cat and drinking coffee while Henry played basketball against our friend Nick in the driveway. We could see both the hills and bell tower of Berkeley and the city skyline flanked by dark redwoods, and there was a funny mural on the back of a building that said that the moral arc of history was bent. I feel the band’s songs are photographs in time, and this one is pretty emblematic of that period in our lives.

    HEK: We play music at Matt’s house, which feels like HQ now. 

    JS: I think Will and Henry had the vision for a golden hour/sunset depiction of a landmark in the East Bay. At some point I remembered this postcard I painted of the rooftop of our old house in Berkeley for our friend/former housemate Nick Roberts (Nick made the music video for Fish Sticks). We basically remade that postcard at sundown for the album cover. The rhythm of our practices/time together comes from habits formed while living together, so it feels fitting that the cover gives a nod to that era. We’re dispersed now but we still get to hang out quite a bit.

    You can listen to Fenceline out now! Snag it on vinyl or CD via Memorials of Destinction.

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