Last month, Bloomington-based artist, Amy O (Oelsner), returned to the scene with her charming and heartfelt new record, Mirror, Reflect – her first in almost five years. Embracing captured moments over picked performances, Mirror, Reflect is a return to DIY form for Oelsner. Blending the warmness of lo-fi home sessions and captured field recordings, the looseness of song-a-day exercises and the sheer joy of a sparkling pop tune, Mirror, Reflect plays as a sincere and varied sonic recounting.  

As a project, Mirror, Reflect documents Oelsner’s transition into motherhood, embracing both the uncertainty and the beauty of those early days of parenting. It’s a very tender record, written from the feelings of grief and isolation, yet Oelsner cherishes the moments of grace that shine through. Brought to life by her poetic and witty lyricism, Mirror, Reflect is a truly unique and enduring project, marking a prominent return for the artist.

The Ugly Hug recently had the opportunity to catch up with Oelsner, discussing the inspiration for recording Mirror, Reflect and learning to fit music back into her life.

This interview has been edited for length and clarity. 

Shea Roney: Mirror, Reflect was a very highly collaborative project, can you tell me a bit about the people you chose to work with? 

Amy Oelsner: I kind of worked separately on it all. I did a portion of the songs with my friend Glenn Myers, who actually lives five minutes down the road from me. It was very relaxed and we would usually get the majority of the song done in just one day when we worked together. And then I also worked with my friend Jon Meador, who was living in Bloomington at the beginning of the project and then he and his wife moved to LA. We happened to visit them last spring, and I was able to finish up the recordings at their house. I did a lot with my husband, Justin [Vollmar], and he also mixed the whole album. I did include one song that was recorded for my old album Shell that I had never used. That was with Ben Lumsdaine at Russian Recording with my old band on it. And I did one song with Will Staler who moved to Australia so we recorded it right before he left, and that was actually what started out the project. He inspired me because he had an ongoing project of recording friends on his 4 track, and I had so much fun that it was what initially jump started this whole thing.

SR: Did you find there to be differences in the song’s outcome when hopping between people and recording processes? 

AO: That was part of what I enjoyed about it, being able to curate which song I thought would fit the different vibes of each person. For example, with Glenn, we were kind of casual, so for “Dribble Dribble”, I recorded that song and I just did my one vocal take and that was the take we got. But with Jon, he’s a lot more meticulous, and I worked with him on “Arc”, and we spent a few months just developing the drumbeat for that.

SR: How spread out was the timeline for this album? 

AO: I had always been on a pretty tight timeline in the past, and so one of my hopes, and I guess one of the ways I was stretching myself in this project was to allow it to take as long as it needed. I can be a pretty impatient person, so that was challenging for me. I would say I started writing the songs in 2020. I wrote that song “Arc” while doing a song-a-day project that July which I did for four months and then I just kept drawing from them over a three year period. I started recording in January 2022, and that was about a two year process.

SR: You described making this record as a return to your DIY roots. The lo-fi sound of these songs, as well as the field recordings you chose to include, create a very documentary-like feel to it. What was it about this project that sparked this shift in your process?

AO: Yeah, it was sort of an exercise in releasing perfectionism for me. I had definitely approached my previous studio albums with a very perfectionist attitude. I’m really proud of those works, and you know, that’s what I needed at the time, but I just felt like I was in a place where there had just been so much stress and anxiety around the pandemic and my postpartum experience. I just knew I didn’t have room for that anywhere else. Music is supposed to be fun and healing, so I really wanted to free myself up. I think if you’re being perfectionistic, it really cuts off the creative process at a point, so I wanted to just open that up so I could see where it would go. I really wanted to, in terms of making it feel more like a documentary of my life, include more of myself in it. That actually was a large goal for me while finishing the album. I really wanted to have an artifact for myself to look back on this period of my life when I’m older.

SR: During the pandemic and your experience with postpartum, how did you invite music back into your life? Did it help you learn about your own process of grief and healing in any way? 

AO: When I became a parent I didn’t know how music was going to fit into my life anymore, and I knew it was going to be a learning process. But I think what I discovered right away was that I immediately went back to songwriting when my daughter was four months old. I decided to do a song-a-day project because that’s something I’ve done to generate material many times over the years. I wasn’t expecting to do something like that when she was so little, but I realized I have to. That’s like therapy for me and it just brings me back to myself when I’m upside down. I think it’s just naturally how I process, I realized. It doesn’t take effort for me, and I’ve just learned that is how I get through grief.

SR: Mirror, Reflect was such a beautiful way for you to document your time defining, and often redefining, the relationships you have in your life. Can you tell me a bit about that? 

AO: I think that a lot of it came naturally around learning my new identity as a mother and learning who I am now in that way. And then also my relationship to my daughter, and just kind of working that out through song. I feel really lucky that I already had this relationship with myself as a songwriter, so it felt like a really nice way of bridging my old self with my new self by working that out through songwriting. I think that it’s just a familiar format for me and it’s a way for me to kind of alchemize all these experiences. Especially when you’re in the early part of parenting, it’s so disorienting because you’re not getting sleep and everything that I used to be able to do I can’t do anymore. So I think through the songwriting, even just stealing little moments where I can get a melody out, became a way of putting a stake in the ground, to be like ‘I’m here!’ 

SR: While reflecting on the harder times and these big changes you experienced in those early days of parenting, you still allowed yourself these little moments of grace. In what ways did you learn to embrace the joy around you when writing these songs?

AO: Something that I’ve been thinking about recently is that it’s very easy for me to identify what’s not working. Especially when things aren’t going well, it’s just very easy for me to do that. But it’s harder to take those moments and really soak them in when you are experiencing joy. A lot of what I was working on in my life was slowing down; removing the feeling of urgency around creative projects and really anything else. I think that parenting has been teaching me that a lot. My daughter’s pace is just so much slower, and she is just down there on the ground looking at every little thing. It’s a microscopic view of life and that can be challenging when you’re used to moving so quickly, but I think it was embracing that helped find the joy in it.

You can stream Mirror, Reflect on all platforms as well as purchase a cassette tape here.

Written by Shea Roney | Photos by Justin Vollmar